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Alternate European Great Powers - 19th Century by GTD-Orion Alternate European Great Powers - 19th Century by GTD-Orion
This is still not the map I was planning on making - that one's still a work in progress.

Only shows some different European Great Powers of the 19th century. Those being Byzantium, Aragon, France and Poland ( Poland-Lithuania ). Nothing more, just a rather simple map with no real backstory.

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Again, used the Victoria II provinces basemap for reference and such. Made this using GIMP.

I suggest downloading the image to see it fullsize, as it's fairly large ( 2200x1800 ) and it's hard to read the texts when zoomed out.
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Ennio444 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
Nice, although I'd like some insight of how did some regions end up looking like that in the 19th Century. How did the Byzantine Empire survive terrible stagnation and strived? Did they discover steam motors in the 16th Century? (Steampunk byzantines is too cool) How could Aragon keep all of his "constituent kingdoms" and become a republic without breaking apart? Etc

Otherwise, nice work!
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
Interesting map, tho I would make the coast-lines not that dark. So Russia never becomes a great-power, because Pol-Lith? Can Germany rise later on, or not?
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GTD-Orion Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
Russia here has never really united after Kievan Rus collapsed. Though that would probably be more benefitial to the various Russian states - rivalry can be an excellent driving force, and real Russia didn't have much, if any, rivals in the eastern territories. That's actually pretty much why I made the Poland-Lithuania eastern borders like they were right before the Partitions.

As for Germany, well, I doubt it. My guess is, unless France and Poland-Lithuania somehow lose what they have of the Holy Roman Empire, Germany would end up being a confederation of various smaller states.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
Oh so Russia never conquers Siberia, will China or Japan get it?

Ah I thought so...Germanys history is sad, at first we had an united empire in the 10th century, but the princes became too strong and kept the country away from becoming a strong nation.
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GTD-Orion Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
I'd expect Siberia to be under the rule of Sibir Khanate or other native people here.

And, I don't know, I think Germany being disunited until the 19th century actually made it stronger.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
How did it make Germany stronger? While Spain, France and Britain conquered the whole world, we argued if Austria or Prussia may lead us XD
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GTD-Orion Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
During the whole unification process, Prussia managed to successfully invade France ( one of the countries that carved up the world ); Germany did gain some colonies, even though it was very late to that party; Germany ended up being highly advanced in terms of industry and so on. It even managed to fight a lot of the European great powers as an equal, and was overwhelmed only because of how many countries it took to stop them.

Or something along those lines.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012
Thatīs right. Well a German once said: It doesnīt matter how big a country or folk is. It matters, if this folk is able to create culture and technology.
Germany isnīt big, but one of the most important economies in the world.

Tho I always think, what if Germany wouldīve been united already during the middleage and then forever, would it be even stronger, or weaker?
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Boris-Dono Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
if you put the republic of italy in france you'll reproduce " l'empire carolingiens " (charlemagne's empire).
But I wanted to know why you see an alternative 19th century's map.
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Boris-Dono Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I wanted to know the backstory since I saw this part in the description "with no real backstory"
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